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I spotted on the other forum, that proposals for a new footbridge at Geldeston were being discussed. The navigition committee, made a recommendation to the planning committee which, if adopted, will ensure that the construction of a new bridge has no consequences, negative or positive, related to possible extension of navigation rights above Geldeston!!!!

Anybody heard anything about the possible extention to the limit? or is this just pie in the sky that gets raised from time to time?

I know cruisers can not go above the bridge, but has anyone taken a canoe or dinghy up there? Is it feasible for the navigation to be extended to larger craft?

Keith

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Feb-15-2006 @ 11:37 PM                           Permalink
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I have taken a dinghy beyond Geldeston Lock several times in years gone by and once took my 16 foot Marina with outboard.  You had to lift (with difficulty) the chains under the footbridge. The footbridge was named by Susan, the indomitable landlady of the Locks, the RAF bridge which stood for the River Authority's Folly as it was constructed too short to span the river so the concrete platforms had to be built at either side to make it fit.  Once upon a time, Henry, who lived at the vicarage in Ellingham sailed his Broads yacht up and down.  However, the depth and width of the river in places is now probably too limiting for all but the smallest craft.  The end of the river navigation is Ellingham mill for craft unless it can be lifted out and refloated above the Mill.

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There is a right to navigate at least in non powered vessels above the lock and canoes can be hired from Outney Meadow Caravan Park near Ditchingham 01 953 455565

'You may only be going from Loddon to Reedham Ferry but I still don't think that the power lead you have connected will be long enough' Bill...

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Extensions to the limit of Navigation crop up from time to time, the NW&DC, The upper Bure from Coltishall to Aylsham and the Waveney from Geldeston to Bungay are old favourites. Back in the 70's it seemed quite likely that at least the Waveney extension would happen but I think the "moment of opportunity" has probably passed.

Whilst it would be nice to see navigation to Bungay I'm sure there are as many valid arguments for leaving things as they are.


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Feb-16-2006 @ 12:59 PM                           Permalink
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There's a really interesting article in February's Waterways World that discusses the feasibility of linking the Broads with the waterways in the Fens.

Between Geldeston and Bungay, the article states that the navigation would be simple to restore, the lock chamber at Ellingham still exists even though it's been filled in.

Bungay to Diss would apparently also be feasible as a navigation - and then a 'summit connection' from Diss to Thetford and the River Little Ouse

Of course there's the small matter of objections from riparian owners, environmentalists, fishermen etc - and the cost of £1,000,000 per kilometre!

The general conclusion is that it is never likely to happen (not surprisingly! - and perhaps fortunately)  but it's an interesting read anyway.

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interestingly enough the Ouse (one of them, little, big, great or not so great!) and the Waveney rise only a few yards apart - one heading through the fens into the Wash and the other as we know along it's own river valley to join the Yare at Breydon.

I seem to remember that way back when the cost of reopening the navigation to Bungay was costed in tens of thousands of pounds for the whole length - how times have changed!

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I reckon we have a fair bit on to keep what we have got.  Once that's sorted let's look at other bits Frown

'You may only be going from Loddon to Reedham Ferry but I still don't think that the power lead you have connected will be long enough' Bill...

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Feb-17-2006 @ 10:29 AM                           Permalink
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Dear Bill,

Yes, I agree with you. But it would be good in due course to look at what we can do above Geldeston plus the N. Walsham - Dilham Canal.

We have negotiated with the Environment Agency that should plans come forward to reopen the locks at Geldeston etc. then the Agency would fund a replacement bridge. Good outcome - a new pedestrian bridge but protected the future.

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John

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Feb-17-2006 @ 10:56 AM                           Permalink
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John,

Thanks for the reply, on the whole I agree with the others that spending time and money on sorting out the existing infrastructure, should come first, however it's nice to dream that one day we might be cruising upto Bungay. It's nice to see steps being taken to at least keep this dream alive.

Thanks

Keith

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What I cannot remember is whether there is any form of roller way alongside the lock to make it easier for canoes and row boats to be hauled up the slope as is done on the Thames. This could be a comparatively cheap way to allow some at least to make more use of the water. There is certainly some advantage to having safer waters were kids and hire boats don't mix.

'You may only be going from Loddon to Reedham Ferry but I still don't think that the power lead you have connected will be long enough' Bill...

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