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Friday 24th June

Thirty Seven  craft to date and counting . . . .

The inaugural NBF 'Cruise in Company' an idea that came out of nowhere serious seems now to be gathering plenty of interest.

The date will be Friday 24th June 2011

There will be various flotillas forming up from all locations concerned with a final destination of Salhouse Broad.

The Commodore I/C of the Waveney Flotilla is:- Jenny Morgan (Peter)
Craft:-  Brandy Wine - Flagship  Jenny Morgan,  Half Pint,  Sunchaser,  Moonlight Shadow,  Luise


The Commodore I/C of the Yare Flotilla is:-
Craft:-


The Commodore I/C of the Ant Flotilla is:- Gramarg (Graham)
Craft:-  Dungraftin,  Malanka,  Mistral,  Broadland Sun,  Crystal Light,  Princess,  Blue Paws,  Blue Moon,  Major Gem,  Siesta,  Perfect Lady 9,  Corsica


The Commodore I/C of the Thurne Flotilla is:- Jaguar (Mike)
Craft:-  Ferzan,  Grey Goose IV,  Woodwose,  Bittern


The commodore I/C of the Bure Flotilla is:-
Craft:-  Lysandra, Our FreeTime, Swan Radiance,  Serendipity,  Broad Ambition,  Amber Gem,  Sunbird,  Evening Shadow


Unknown start locations and 'TBA's:-
Craft:-  Diana,  Pulse,  Caravelle 3,  Avalon,  Blue Star,  My Girl,



This 'plan' is all subject to change of course as are all thing Broads related

Timings will be notified with regards to departing from various locations, the Waveney flotilla will meet up with the Yare flotilla at Reedham or Berney Arms and become one larger group crossing Breydon and collecting further boats as they navigate up the Bure then meeting up with the Thurne flotilla at Thurne Mouth.

As the group pass St Benets they should collect the Ant flotilla which will be on the Bure loosely treble moored at St Benets bows towards Horning (Won't they?)

The upper Bure lot imho should also meet at St Benets OR on the upper Bure and pick up the flotilla as we pass. Then through Horning to the final destination of Salhouse Broad for the mudweighting / rafting up in massed ranks, depending on how many are in attendance.

Ideally we should aim to arrive at Salhouse no later than 1500, sooner if at all possible. Eta is governed by the progression of the Waveney and Yare flotillas

Albion will be there ready to greet us, mud-weighted in the centre of the Broad with bows pointing South heading towards the staithe moorings.  The now mass ranks of the Flotilla will then raft up either side of Albion.
Craft should raft up either side of Albion using head/stern mooring lines in the conventional manner.
Mud-weights deployed from the bow, next boat from the stern, then the bow etc. Those of us that have two mud-weights ('B.A' has) will deploy both Fwd and Aft

On completion of the photo shoot Albion will move to the Eastern end of the staithe mooring alongside for 'Open to Visitors'
Albion has to depart no later than 1830 from Salhouse Broad for Ludham.

Those skippers that wish to spend the evening alongside the terra firma moorings are of course free to do so, same goes for anyone wishing a different overnight destination, you're the skipper of your vessel = your choice.



Saturday 25th lunchtime of course is the start of the annual NBF meet at Malthouse Broad on Ranworth Island.


I have started off a new sign-up list under the 'Forum Events' heading (In red at the bottom of any page) for those that are wanting to attend this event please submit your details.  Seeing as there is no suitable window (Box then) to enter your starting location, please enter this information in the 'Any Other Donations' box - Thanks.


Ideas from all concerned are now requested, let's see if we can make a good and successful first ever cruise in company for the NBF

I have often thought that the annual NBF meet should have a HUGE lightweight flag flown on an extendible aluminium poles secured with light guide ropes etc.  If we were to jointly purchase such a flag and poles then the 'Flagship' of the 'Cruise in Company' could fly this (although not with all the poles erected).

I'll do a bit of research for a suitable supplier of such a flag and where to purchase the poles on a separate thread if the majority agree

Right over to you.

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There seems to be a few questions concerning mudweighting and some of you stating you only have the one mudweight.

Well the good news is that you only need ONE mudweight, if you do have two mudweights onboard though, so much the better.

This is how is works:-

The Wherry 'Albion' will already be in position on her mudweights with her bows pointing towards the beach.

All craft to deploy fenders.

Then we need two craft, large-ish heavyweights at around 40ft to Port and Stbd of the Albion that have two mudwiights each with both of them deployed at bow and stern. Bow and stern ropes secured to Albion. I would suggest Brandywine and 'B.A' to fulfil these roles

Then in no particular order - craft to moor either side using head and stern ropes and alternate mudweights, i.e -

Approach the 'raft' from astern, that is to say with YOUR bows (That's the pointy bit) pointing towards the beach. (That's the terra firma stuff with sand on it) If mooring to stbd of the raft have your PORT head and stern ropes ready to tie onto the craft you are coming alongside of.  Look at the craft you are now moored next to, if their mudweight is deployed over THEIR bow, then you deploy your mudweight over the stern of your craft.

It should therefore go without saying that if their mudweight is deployed over the stern of their craft you deploy your mudweight over the bow of your craft and so on.

If mooring to Port of the raft the only difference being that you will need your Stbd head and stern mooring ropes to hand.

Now this bit is important - where mudweighting is concerned, helms rarely need to take heed of the tide, it is the wind that concerns them and the usual practise is bring the bows into wind then deploy mudweights over the bow.

In this case we have to ignore the wind direction as we do need to have the raft in a single line about 50m off the beach in a straight-ish line facing the beach for the photo shoot.

So, when you are approaching the raft from astern of it as previously mentioned, if you make a hash of it (And there is no pressure here as there will be only 100+ pairs of eyes watching you) KEEP GOING AHEAD come round and have another go but move out one or two places so as to allow the craft following you to take the slot that you had your eye on.

This will stop any queu's building up as craft raft up.

Some of you skippers may now be wondering what happens if the scenario occurs of a 'Little-un' being between two 'Big-uns'  -  No problem, the outer 'Big-un' simply passes their head/stern ropes over to the 'Big-un' that is inboard of the 'Little-un' this should maintain the line.

I will of course be stood on top of 'B.A' with my inter-ship communication system in hand (Loud hailer) to verbally assist if required.

Now tell me that is not simple?  -  No?  -  Read it again then.   Smile

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Salhouse - Stern on moorings,

I have spoken with Toby - he is the ranger that looks after the moorings at Salhouse Broad.

There are a total of 38 mooring slots available (Ignoring the three / four down at the play area), that is sixteen to the left of the beach and twenty two to the right of the beach.

I have reserved ALL of them for Friday the 24th JUNE.  There is a mooring fee payable of £6 per craft overnight, however Toby has kindly given the NBF s group discount therefore mooring fee's will be £5 per craft Smile  so please make sure that you are flying a forum flag OR have the forum logo stuck to a window. (Logo's can be printed off by going to the bottom of this page and clicking on 'Make my Logo')

Here's how it works - After the raft / photo shoot, Albion will slip from the raft and proceed to berth up alongside the terra firma, NBF members then can go and berth up stern on and have a visit visit onboard Albion, hopefully either making a donation to her cause or signing up as a friend. (Albion will not be staying overnight and will not be paying a mooring fee). There will not be room for all of us to berth until Albion has departed so I respectfully ask volenteers with tenders to stay mudweighted if required. Once Albion has departed that will make room for further NBF craft to berth.  Again if there is insufficient room, tenders will come to the fore. I'm assuming not all members will be staying overnight at Salhouse though.

If we are stuck and oversubscribed for berthing slots then I'm quite happy for craft to put their bows between 'B.A' and my neighbour (whoever that maybe) with there mudweight deployed over thier stern.

Wroxham / Horning trip boats - Toby will contact the relevant organisations that run the trip boats and inform them that there will be around 40 odd craft rafted up on Salhouse Broad for an hour or so. He tells me that he knows the folk in the offices and that this scenario happens when they have their annual raft race get together thing and won't be a problem for them. The raft will be opposite the beach area anyway, not covering the two entrances to the Broad.

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Ref booking pubs for meals on the Friday night, I suggest that those crews that intend having their evening dinner in one of the  pubs book the venues themselves, rather than the lot of us booking under one name, that way it can be done on a first come, first served basis and keeps the organisation / lists / logistics to a minimum.

Those skippers that can mudweight from the bow only – shouldn’t be a problem, there will be enough craft that can relocate their Mudweights to the stern and with that many craft it shouldn’t upset the balance too much.  Trip boats – as per later post, Toby the ranger is informing them and he states it won’t be a problem

It will take some time to get rafted up, although less than an hour I would hope, should be a breeze if we all follow my rafting evolution planning . . . . .
How do we raft in a straight line? Do we need to  ensure our sterns are level? Or what!?   Good Point.  -  This will be my responsibility, From my vantage point on the coach house roof of ‘B.A’ inter-ship communication system in hand I will instruct (by boat name) to dress Fwd or Aft as the case may be, this is easily done  by either ‘checking away’ or ‘down slack’ on the mudweight adjusting your head/stern ropes accordingly. So it is most important to turn off your engine as soon as you are alongside your neighbouring boat and no cd’s blaring out either please otherwise I won’t be able to be heard and chaos will reign supreme.

The date on the forum events page reads 24 July 2011 The printed date on the sign up events is July, that is of course wrong, this was a cock-up on my part.

The correct date is Friday 24th JUNE

I have lost count / given up the number of times I have asked a certain forumite who has the capability to alter this, to date it has still not been done, I doubt it will be changed at all now.

Maybe we need to consider the length of boats as we moor up with the longest either side of Albion and then the shorter ones slowly spreading out to the smallest like 'you know the one I mean' half pint so it looks slightly arrow shaped if we line up at the stern or V shaped if we line up at the bow.  Just a thought! I too had considered this, after much thought (1 x nano-second) decided against it as it would mean getting craft in a strict order approaching Salhouse Broad, or having craft milling around trying to hold station waiting for their turn to join the raft – chaos would reign once more. As stated in another post, it matters not a jot if a little-un is in between two big-uns, we are all carrying fenders, just pass the head and stern ropes from the outer big-un to in inner big-un and all will be fine

Do I need to be wearing a  carnation  in my lapel or is there a far  more practical way of spotting the boats?   Craft should display either a forum flag (Ordered from Richard) or a printed logo (Go to the bottom of this page to the red section and print one off).  As for identifying members, well at the meet the following day (Saturday) ‘Miss Clipboard’ goes round with sticky labels for members. If someone wants to do that for the C-in-C then be my guest. Another solution is to order one of the NBF polo shirts (from G.C) which will have your name on it. I have one, some of my crew have their  ‘B.A’ polo shirts with their names on them.

Communications – Let’s not get toooooooo complicated here folks, Pmr, Vhf, CB, mobiles, Inter-ship-com system, semaphore, Aldis lamps, telephone, etc etc.  The fastest method of communication known to man is – ‘Tellawoman’ Anyroadup!!!!  The flotilla commodores will be organising departure times from their locations. So timings all hinge on the eta at Thurne Mouth of the southern flotillas, this will be coordinated by Jenny Morgan, (No pressure J.M). The relevant flotilla commodores should then communicate between themselves informing their charges by whatever means they see fit.  Ncsl has started off a separate thread for comms during the C-in-C for those that wish to participate – Good move Ncsl – Thanks.

There is no need for any order of craft in ‘The Snake’ as someone on here eloquently put it other than ‘BrandyWine’ who will be flying the NBF Standard and needs to be at the head of the snake. The only other requirement is for ‘B.A’ to be directly behind BrandyWine. Why? Well when we arrive at Salhouse Broad, as previously mentioned for the rafting up evolution we need those two heavyweights with their two mudweights either side of the Albion.  This means of course that during the flotillas transit from St Benets I will need to get myself behind BrandyWine, so please don’t be giving me grief for overtaking whoever is between me and BrandyWine.

Berthing Slots – Let’s not get too excited about reserving berthing slots, there will be plenty of room as some craft are not staying overnight, some intend mudweighting overnight and using tenders, we also have the option of craft putting their bow between two berthed boats (Well fendered) with their mudweight over the stern, this gives us the capability of having seventy odd (Yes 70) craft alongside terra firma.

Lastly, when posting and referring other forumites to page numbers on here, not all forumites have their preferences set the same, for instance I am currently on page 4 with this particular thread, it is easier if you refer to the date/time of previous postings


As per the norm suggestions and input from all is welcome.



Griff


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Brilliant, and many, many thanks to Sunchaser who had a brilliant (though I think in his mind at the start, tongue in cheek) idea.

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ps flag idea is epic Griff

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For flags try these people, highly recommended:
http://www.ensignflags.com/

The Commodore I/C of the Waveney Flotilla is:- Jenny Morgan (Peter)
Craft:- Jenny Morgan. Happy to pick up two passengers who fancy an open boat ride.

Jenny Morgan,
A vane, a boat, but not a bird.
The Broads is NOT a National Park.

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The Admiral, seen here in Beccles today, will lead the fleet!

Induced camera shake to help hide his identity! Or more likely it was a grab shot as we passed by & the auto focus had not had time to hit the mark, I had a 50mm macro lens on!

Jenny Morgan,
A vane, a boat, but not a bird.
The Broads is NOT a National Park.

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If I could find my sail material - sorry GC I never found it the other month, then I would be happy to make one, I am sure I haven't forgotten my sewing skills from the 1970s when I used to make code flags etc

Tell me the size though - I would have to check I have enough white

Liz

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Hang on a minute!!!!

Have just realised that I was moored next to the Boss's boat in Oulton YS on Wednesday night.  I clocked the flag but didn't think anymore of it cos there was no sign of life.  But of course, it all makes sense now, he must have been wandering the streets of Oulton wailing about the loss of the Commodore!!!     Evil Grin



Griff - much as I would love to Cruise in company and boost the Waveney contingent, I'm afraid I will be stuck in school all day.  Frown  

Although I do hope to drive up to Ranworth on the Saturday.    Smile

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I have already had two p.m's from people from elsewhere asking if they could join the Waveney Convoy. Great idea, it will allow folk to see more of the Broads than they might otherwise. You can mudweight off the end of my garden on the Thursday evening, be ferried ashore for a barby, if there is sufficient demand, and watch the speedboats.

Jenny Morgan,
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The Broads is NOT a National Park.

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No need to buy a pole Griff, I have one that is used to mount a ham radio ariel.
Shown on the bow of Paula Dawn.
Would it do the job?.
Jim boat-sail

ps it has a rubber base to provent damage.


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Looks similar to this boat only this photo is minus the camera shake  LOL does that qualify me into being a 'David Bailey' then?

Boat list updated - Tks.

Ref Standard Forum Flag - See seperate thread,


Griff

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Great idea have already signed up.

Dean & Carol

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