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Hi all.
Note the time.
ive been up my shed messing about with model boats,out of Gills way,
After getting the bad news from Mr J Packman.
At first i felt i had let you all down,
(and i must admit i got a buzz getting him on here)
Pride before a fall or what.
But after thinking about it,

To MR J Packman,
Mate you had a chance on here to talk to folk who really care about the Broads,
and who would have listened ,and disagreed maybe with you but it would have been done with DECORUM
May be the B A should perhaps be more customer aware.
i do not have much knowledge of Broads Politics, but quite a few of our members do,and i think it may be a wise policy to listen to them.
all the best  and most of all
happy chuging


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I suspect they don't give a toss about the public, only the new years honours list.

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Hi Mate
the horrible thing is i was going to work unpaid this year for the B A and this has took the edge off.

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Mar-02-2006 @ 9:31 AM                           Permalink
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I didn't think that I would say this sort of thing over here but I think that Richard is quite right. There are those, I'm sure, who work for the BA as it was seen as a good career move in the world of National Parks, not because of any great love or understanding of the Broads. Rant over, sorry folks.

Jenny Morgan, the watchfull eye!

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Not in the least surprised, and expected nothing less really, Quangos, councils & government bodies of all types are in my wide and long experience, with some notable exceptions, populated by self serving time serving types. Their expertise is at best mediocre and generally of an inadequate nature for the position held and their qualifications from former Polytechnics with the temerity to call themselves Universities. Few have the courage to show any initiative or buck the system or raise issues which would clearly benefit society and those who do are censured for working outside the draconian restrictions placed upon them.

Rant far from over.

David

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Roy, I do hope that you are now understanding a little of the frustrations experienced by those of us who have been seriously concerned about the way in which the Broads Authority have (not) been managing our lovely waterways for a number of years!
Also how frustrated when we find ourselves abused for expressing those views on this forum! Public debate, yes and abuse, I can take - see a couple of other strings - I've given out enough !
What I do find difficult is the other stuff which my postings have generated, and this may, in part be responsible for my apparent "liverishness" at times.

Whatever you do - dont give up caring about the Broads, and welcome to the "fight".

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Cheers all.
To day is a new day,
i will in my own way with all your help,continue to try to get the B A .on board.
Poppy ,i hope that you do not feel you have been abused on this site,
I STILL maintain that polite questions are the way ahead,
i feel a little sad that John has had the rug pulled so to speak,
its not in my nature to put folk down via a key board,
i much prefer face to face.
Blimey the sun is shining ,
  Cheers

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The truth is, Roya, that John Packman pulled his own rug out from under us all, despite the sincere welcome that you folks all gave him.

In hindsight I can say that he was a tad waspish on the subject of 'forums' at the last Nav Com meeting. I can't remember exactly what was said, but it was in response to my question, in response to Bill Maxtead's question on this forum, as to 'would Nav Com agendas be published on the BA site in the future?' Commenting that the Agenda was published, but that the link was down, he then, as I understood him, appeared to accuse the traffic generated by the two forums as being responsible. Basically he then said that there was some absolute rubbish on the forums and that us, the committee/BA 'Members', should deal with it.

As Poppy has said, dealing with the BA can be an extremely frustrating affair. This rejection of this forum as a mutual meeting point is something of an own goal in my opinion.


Jenny Morgan, the watchfull eye!

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In fairness John did respond in a positive way in his posting here to me and the missing link was restored within 24 hours which I for one appreciated. In all my conversations with him he has made a marked distinction between his reactions to the two forums. John may be many things and not others but he is not foolish and the abrupt departure from the scene does make me wonder whether others may have lent on him.

'You may only be going from Loddon to Reedham Ferry but I still don't think that the power lead you have connected will be long enough' Bill...

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Roy, you are to be applauded for trying and I'm sorry that you have been disappointed. In these days of spin and carefully vetted PR, I was surprised to see an organisation such as the BA, replying to the public in any manner other than via an official press release or via their website. You have to realise it's not just the BA that would take this stance, you wouldn't be able to engage your local council in a local forum, for instance.

Most organisations or companies will respond on a one to one basis to written queries, but publically only through previously authorised channels, but all credit to you for trying.

As Richard has pointed out, there are enough BA members who peruse this forum and maybe what we need to do is start a thread where forum members can post their own questions of the BA in the one place. OK I don't expect John or other members of the BA to reply here now, but I am sure they will still read it and if they deemed it neccesary be able to reply, via their official channels.

One other thing that maybe worth trying, is to see whether the BA would participate in a special chat room on the forum at a scheduled time, in many ways this would be no different to fielding questions at a public meeting.

Keith

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