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pargeandmarge
Oct-18-2017 @ 2:14 AM                           Permalink
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We don't fish wouldn't know what to do with a fish if I caught one. The nearest ole Marge gets to one is when accompanies chips.
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Harlequin - you are wasting your breath!! This has all been said before time and time again but the same old posters raise this red herring - they latch on to the same arguments and yet clearly know nothing about otters habits, nor anything about the numbers in the Broads. Its just their perception!!

The same applies to the bird population - of course there are variations but forget other factors may be at play such as migration (after all they do have wings!! ) and primarily climate change! Even in my garden the birds come and go, surprise surprise, but the Broads are an evolving landscape still and if we lose some, they are often replaced by new species.

I have long given up trying to counter some of the points made in this thread!!!!!

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Oct-18-2017 @ 9:30 AM                           Permalink
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Me to!!!!!

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Oct-18-2017 @ 9:35 AM                           Permalink
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Again it seems that the coot is a barometer of avian success or failure.

According to the RSPB the humble coot numbers 31,000 pairs in the summer and 190,000 individuals in the winter.

I can guarantee cruising up Ranworth Dam, Womack or a dozen other places in November seeing hundreds of 'em.  Smile

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Oct-18-2017 @ 9:39 AM                           Permalink
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I have been visiting the Broads as man and boy for over 50 years and never have I seen so little wildlife on the rivers as I have over these last few years,whilst at the same time seeing so many otters.
All the locals that I have spoken to believe that the otter is the root cause of the decline and that sooner or later something will have to be done about it.


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Oct-18-2017 @ 10:09 AM                           Permalink
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It seems someone is taking matters into their own hands. A local was telling my brother at Ludham bridge, that about five otters were pulled from the river/broad around Hickling a few weeks back all dead and not natural causes.
I don't have any more details it was just a quick chat on the bank.



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Clearly Blacky, with respect, you are not talking to the right locals!!!

The Broads have been "full" of otters for 10 years or so, so why now have they suddenly impacted the birds? Bird populations change - cannot see a shortage of geese and or Egyptian geese around and about? Also seen more bitterns this year than ever before and plenty of gt crested grebes - 50 years ago they were as rare as hens teeth!

But as I said this is a pointless argument - its like some posters see speeding everywhere whilst others see it about the same as ever. Its all about perception.

But believe me, or not, helped by the improvement in water quality throughout the area, the flora and fauna around the Broads are in fact, in relatively fine fettle compared with previously!!!!



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Oct-18-2017 @ 3:20 PM                           Permalink
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"the flora and fauna around the Broads are in fact, in relatively fine fettle"
Unlike the coots grebes and ducks

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The "locals" to whom I referred have lived a lifetime in the area and earned their living from Broads based businesses,that is 'clearly' good enough for me and backs up what I am seeing when I'm out and about on the Northern rivers.
It was always going to take several years to become apparent and I started to really notice the difference in the numbers of coots,grebes,mallard and Egyptian geese around 2013/14 and each year it has got worse.

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Oct-18-2017 @ 5:34 PM                           Permalink
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We have seen all the wildfowl at Ranworth and Womack Smile . Just havn't spotted any otters in those locations yet. May have been looking at the wrong times or should go to spec savers other opticians are available.
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Marge and Parge

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