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Lived pretty much on the water for 4 years. Seen 2 Otters.

Hardly over-run are we?

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i have been following this thread for a few days now as a tackle shop owner and serious match angler, 3 yrs ago I said that this problem will start to affect other businesses on the broads but got shot down as it was only a minor problem ive also had people staying at wroxham saying they wont be staying in that vicinity they will move to somewhere else.There doesn't seem to be much of a problem at st benets abbey and other match venues but at other places such as wroxham, horning it can be a big problem. Most people who live or work around the broads(Not visit once a year and voice their opinion) know that the summer season really starts on the june 16th when the fishing season starts. I match fish the stretch of river between Martham and Somerton in the summer and the wildlife such as coots moorhens have completely disappeared in the last few years, compared to over 10 yrs ago when that stretch of river was full of them.
In the winter when fish shoal up in the boatyards etc these residential otters have to feed on something so they will have eyes bigger than there bellies and try anything. Local fishing clubs have spent thousands on electric otter fences to protect there stock so unless something is done businesses will suffer they wont be able to put fences up to help them survive.

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"Lived pretty much on the water for 4 years. Seen 2 Otters."

Maybe you're looking in the wrong places. I've seen them on the Upper Bure above Wroxham and below Horning, on the Upper Ant at Neatishead and Sutton, Lower Ant below Ludham Bridge, Ranworth Dam and Fleet Dyke. And I only manage 6 or 7 weeks out on the water each year.

"..for the avoidance of any doubt, the broads are not legally a national park and do not come under the national park legislation, and nor will they."
Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for DEFRA (Hansard 2015)

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" Most people who live or work around the broads(Not visit once a year and voice their opinion) know that the summer season really starts on the june 16th when the fishing season starts. "

Two incorrect assumptions.

1. I voice my opinion but was born in Broadland. Norfolk is still my home.
That assumption is certainly wrong for MM and plenty of others too.

2. The summer season may well start for anglers on June 16th but that will be mid season for many others like myself. Many of us will have been on the water plenty of times before that.

The Broads offer all sorts of opportunities and activities. Some of which are year round. It is a very myopic view to assume that angling is the only thing that counts. It is merely one small part of the picture and needs to deal with the natural environment. Rather than twist the environment to remove the need for angling skill, and to make a few people a quick buck.

Would anyone that advocates killing otters (for the alleged damage that they cause to the angling industry) like to put a price at which they believe otters should be shot? ie: alleged industry loss divided by the number of otters to be wiped out. Do not forget to add in the income from those that visit to specifically see Broadland wildlife.





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Exile you say that it only applies to fisherman that the season starts on june 16th just speak to the likes of richardsons and other boat companys , riverside properties and other businesses and they will tell you that as soon as the fishing season commences the prices go up, not just because someone wants to come to the broads and see some wildlife etc. I know someone who owns a property at potter/martham and from march 14th - june 16th he is booked very rarely but from june 16th till end of oct he is fully booked you tell me that these dates dont tell you something.


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EXILE Wrote Would anyone that advocates killing otters (for the alleged damage that they cause to the angling industry) like to put a price at which they believe otters should be shot? ie: alleged industry loss divided by the number of otters to be wiped out. Do not forget to add in the income from those that visit to specifically see Broadland wildlife.

If you thinks that this just relates to the angling industry you are well wrong if it carrys on there will be no wildlife left for those to come and visit i voice my opinion of someone who is on and work on the river everyday of the year.


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JBensley,
I am not sure how long you have been in Broadland looking at wildlife. However, compared to the seventies and eighties particularly, the wildlife on the waters here is massively improved. In both quantity and diversity. There are various reasons for that which include better water quality, protection, etc.
There is no danger whatsoever the Broads running out of wildlife to attract naturalist enthusiasts.

June being the summer with warmer and longer days, obviously attracts visitors in greater numbers everywhere. Not just on the Broads and not just in fishing areas.
For instance I have a house on the coast. I use it on occasion and friends and family borrow it when they wish. It sits empty much of the year. However from about the beginning of June until mid September it is pretty much in constant use. No surprise there, any more than it is no surprise that the same applies on the Broads and all other tourist spots.
Angling will contribute to that increase on the Broads but it is just one factor amongst a lot of others.

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"Exile you say that it only applies to fisherman that the season starts on june 16th just speak to the likes of richardsons and other boat companys , riverside properties and other businesses and they will tell you that as soon as the fishing season commences the prices go up, not just because someone wants to come to the broads and see some wildlife etc. I know someone who owns a property at potter/martham and from march 14th - june 16th he is booked very rarely but from june 16th till end of oct he is fully booked you tell me that these dates dont tell you something."

Strange that prices for holidays elsewhere go up about the same time, maybe because that is the holiday season? After all people going to Benidorm or Torremalinos etc arn't gping for the fishing.

I'll just say 1 thing, I fish for Pike on the Broads at least at least 60 days a year and have done for many years, I have never had a bait taken by an Otter (though I see them about) and I have never heard of anyone else who has had one taken. It could happen but it's very unlikely, Otters prefer Live Fish they are not really scavangers. The fishing on the Broads is as good as it has ever been with the exception of Pike which have suffered for a number of reasons the main one being Salt water surges and predation by Human animals.

Dave.  



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Must just a coincidence that the week commencing of the fishing season that prices go up after all 5 days later you have the longest day and the nights start pulling in Wink the sooner they remove the closed season the better which I think will be soon rather than later so we can get a full 12 months worth of liscence fee but that is for another topic  

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"...so we can get a full 12 months worth of liscence fee..."

I thought the fee bought a national licence, not just a licence for the Broads. People who angle on the Broads can fish elswhere during the closed season, can't they?

"..for the avoidance of any doubt, the broads are not legally a national park and do not come under the national park legislation, and nor will they."
Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for DEFRA (Hansard 2015)

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