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i have a question for other forum memberds which was aked of me by a friend from london
why are there no hotel boats on the broads? is it becASE NO ONE has thought of thr ides or that the  ba wont allow it what do other members think

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Hi there ,
Firstly , where can you put a boat hotel ? Certainly not wroxham , no room there as already full , certainly would'nt go down well with river front hotels dotted around the broads,
Secondly , probably to big to have due width , height , be  a problem  with the bridges , reducing river width ,

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As Steve has said size and moorings would be the biggest problem, those in use on the Thames would exceed the size limits on a lot of the Broads and there are very few public moorings close to facilities that would be suitable unlike the many towns on the Thames, the nearest thing on the Broads is the traditional wherries.

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Not exactly a hotel environment but Hunter's at Womack offer beds on the water, where you use one of their sailing boats as accommodation, but don't actually leave the yard.

But what did your friend have in mind? A static 'botel'? Can't see the point - might as well stay in a hotel. A cruising 'botel'? This would have a very limited appeal, if any appeal at all.

I've just had a peek at the offerings of a well-advertised river-cruising company. In one particular 8-day cruise, they offer visits to: Amsterdam, Kinderdijk, Cologne, Kiblenz, Heidelberg, Strasbourg, Breisach, and Basel, with inclusive tours in every port. They can cover the ground (water) because they cruise during the night.

Try setting up an 8-day itinerary for the Broads. Perhaps Wroxham, Potter Heigham, Great Yarmouth, Oulton Broad, Norwich, Beccles, Horning and back to Wroxham. Not quite in the same league, IMO.

But for the majority of people who go onto the water, the enjoyment is being your own skipper, go where you want, how you want. The pleasure is more in the journey than the destination.

A final thought, where would these 'botels' moor for the night?


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Great Yarmouth outer harbour. If there isn’t enough takers then secure the mooring lines and detain at her majesty’s pleasure arka a prison ship! I’m sure uk.gov have leased one or two from the USA a few years back. With engines and possibly even hull maintenance out of the equation the numbers might just stack up for a change.

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The prison ship (s) moored in Weymouth Harbour quite near the existing land based establishments I don't remember why they finally went but one of the reasons was the noise which vibrated round if any of the tenants kicked off

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This thread has made me smile - not because I am amused at the thought of hotel boats on the Broads, but because many years ago Mike and I booked our first Broads holiday, and not knowing any better, we booked a boat that we thought was fine but turned out to be a skanky , extremely scruffy boat with rusty fittings, rotten wood, see though grubby curtains with holes and finger marks, and a nice patch of mould by our heads as we slept. We were disappointed to say the least, but set off on our first boating adventure, having named the boat " The Prison Ship"! We still refer to it to this day.

Despite the boats obvious downfalls, we crossed a very calm  Breydon on that very first evening with a stunning summer sky, and we were completely hooked!

Karen

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There are "Hotel" boats on the canal systems that behave just like a hotel they take obviously a limited amount of guests and cruise provide meals and a bed they also tow whet I believe they call butty boats behind them that are non engined

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That's basically the concept - similar to skippered hire, but normally following a set route.

I've looked into the idea in the past, using a new build replica motor wherry design. My back of the envelope initial calculations came out with set up costs in the region of £250k.

If somebody had that kind of money to invest, then it could probably return a small profit, but not really enough to interest external investors.

It would also require somebody who in addition to being able to skipper the boat and act as a good hotel manager, is also able to work effectively with the BA and a reasonably large number of other local businesses.

If it hasn't been done, it's probably because the combination of somebody with the money, inclination, and skills has yet to come along.

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Having done the Thames several times I think its safe to say that there is no comparison we have seen the  hotel boats a few times on there and there is o way the Broads offer the facilities they would require

     Brian

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