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Jun-14-2018 @ 5:58 AM                           Permalink
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I was on the river, during the SUP race on Saturday, travelling by motor vessel between Potter Heigham and Acle and back again.  The race, I believe, began at Acle, went upriver to South Walsham, back down to Thurne Mouth, then upriver again to Potter and beyond. I encountered both groups of boarders and individuals. All were highly visible, standing or lying down.  At no stage did I feel there was any significant danger to them, nor any major inconvenience to me.  Occasionally I had to moderate my speed and take care (much as I might have done for a tacking sailing vessel), but that is just common courtesy to other river users (and good seamanship).

I did notice the boarders tended to follow a bit of a zigzag path along the river.  They would take half a dozen or more strokes on one side of the board, so propelling them a little diagonally, before half a dozen on the other side, taking them back.  I presume this was the fastest way of making progress, rather than take alternate strokes which might have kept them in a narrower corridor.  However, once I had observed their practice for a few minutes it became (again just like sailors, if you take the time to watch) an entirely predictable
pattern of movement.

There’s no way I’ll ever get on one of those things, looks like way too much hard work, but good luck to them.  They have every right to enjoy their sport, just as the rest of us have.  I agree with Paladine (a rare enough event) that the original posters tone is hostile and aggressive.  I wonder if he’s in that minority of river users I’ve witnessed who handle their boats in a hostile and aggressive manner, and who seem to think that everybody else on the river should  get out of their way?  

Plenty of room for everybody.

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Bob dog i will leave you to polish your ha!o and look forward to the next paddle boat race,fingers crossed you will see all the pretty boarders as you  carefully and gently let them weave from side to side next race a hundred boards expected hope you meet them as you go under a bridge as we did room for all,live and let live not if you dont agree with the band on here.

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Great video from the hedgehog, about a frog ( and a much loved muppet!)  Smile  

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Mr P, just one small point, if I may....

I know that you are an experienced helm and can negotiate your way safely through all manner of boaty races,  but not everyone's as good as you, particularly new hirers. I've seen a fair few canoeists on the wrong end of a bow wave from a panicking helm, as well as downright inconsiderate private owners, so is a bit more education (or at least increased awareness such as this thread ) the key for all river users? ( no easy quick fix though, I accept !)

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PS  I can totally agree with your suggestion that meeting a bunch of paddle boarders is preferable to entering Horning  on 3RR day!

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K&M, I think we have a bit of topic drift here. While I have been a private owner (of both sail and motor craft) for a good number of years, a shift in the wind, an unhelpful tide, or a moment’s lack of attention, can trip me up very easily. I’ve also been at the wrong end of substantial wash from a planing boat not going fast enough to be up on the plane, on Breydon Water, which, for few uncomfortable moments, I feared was going to swamp my 30’ bathtub.

So I don’t think it’s about the type of craft, or the experience or otherwise of the helm. It comes back to what other posters have said, the ability to accept that not all Broads users want to use the Broads in the same way, and we should be prepared to make adjustments, if necessary, to accommodate those differences.

No matter how much education is offered or delivered, there will always be newbies, some who want to learn and some who don’t. Unless I know the individual concerned, I regard the helms of other vessels, large and small, private and hire, as newbies, who are likely to do something unexpected and/or foolish. That way I am prepared for when it actually happens, as happen it undoubtedly will at some point in time.

Back to the SUPs, as this appears to be an annual event, staged by Martham Boats (but there may be other organizers), it would be beneficial if those organizers could be encouraged to advertise the events here, and on any other appropriate Broads forum, so that boaters can be forewarned to expect the unexpected, and we could, if we so desire, find a vantage point from which to watch the proceedings (something like how the 3RR is promoted).

Better understanding might even result in better tolerance.  Smile

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Hello All
Just a thought will these Paddle Boarders end up like Lycra clad adrenaline seeking cyclists giving no thought for any other user of the planet, one even on a country lane managing to ride between Marge and our Labrador who was on a lead. He know sadly is at Rainbow Bridge.
Who knows.
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Marge and Parge

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Well they have no intention of checking if the coast is clear before pulling onto the main river. And yes I must be at fault not being able to see people on the opposite side to the helm which is a total blind spot on my boat.... but hey ho

L

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