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Hello, l am replacing a 1970's UK spec 12 volt boat ignition switch.
The problem is the wire connectors (terminals) at the back of the old switch (barrel) are marked with  S C A M B M but the new ignition switch terminals are marked with. 1,2,3 and 4
My question is what letters correspond to the numbers?
Hope you understand
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Found this on another forum. Hope it helps. And welcome to the forum.

http://forums.iboats.com/filedata/fetch?id=7034394&d=1413854971

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Amazing what information is held by Forum members,
taking it a step further(having replaced my Lucas ignition switch) the modern switch connections.

(from internet) as mine was even simpler off/ignition, accessories/ starter solenoid

Standard 4 pole switch positions.

(EDIT: after further web searches there may be more versions of the four poles switch, and of course some have linked terminals.)



Position 1 - ACC Power to accessories only (key turns anti-clockwise & cannot be removed)
Position 2 -OFF  All power off (key can be removed)
Position 3 -IGN + ACC Power to ignition & accessories
Position 4 -IGN + Solenoid (starter)

Position 3 & 4 (key turns clockwise & cannot be removed)
Power to ignition & starter motor position 4 (no power to accessories) - spring return to position 3 on release of key

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Thank you everyone. So l now know what the wires are for but l don't know which numbered terminals to attach them to.
Any further information would be much appreciated.

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Aug-30-2017 @ 8:27 PM                           Permalink
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Hi there.  Did the new key come with anything?
Can you put a picture of the terminals on?
The other options are bell it out with a meter (or a bulb & battery).


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Aug-30-2017 @ 11:29 PM                           Permalink
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Hi, sadly the ignition unit came with nothing - no instructions. All l can say is that the terminals are marked with numbers 1 to 4 , l guess to comply with EU regulations.

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This may help
https://www.autoelectricsupplies.co.uk/mobile/product/828

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Thomas, I've googled 'six terminal ignition switch' and in images, it shows a number of switches with exactly the letters you have on yours. They all seem to relate to use with an outboard.

Do you have a petrol inboard or outboard, or a diesel with a pre-heat on the key? Do all 6 terminals have a wire/s connected to them?



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l think Steve is right, more information needed. If your old switch had 6 terminals on it ,you may now have the wrong replacement
l have given a link to Lucas based info page, compare yours (old/new) with the examples, opening up and scrolling down each image gives the switching sequence, does yours match any ?
https://www.autoelectricsupplies.co.uk/mobile/product_list/253

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Well all very confusing. I went back onto eBay and looked at some of the other ignition switches for sale. A couple showed  the wiring instructions and with the corresponding letters next to the terminals, others just showed the numbers 1 to 4 (all for marine use).
Anyway l have ordered a new switch with letters on the back.
Why they produce ignition switches with different wiring codes is beyond me!
Still we all now know to check the back of the ignition switch before ordering a new one.
Thanks for all your advice.
I will be back !  I am planning to bring a new (old) boat down to the Broads soon - had it with locks on the Medway!

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