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kitman
Nov-29-2016 @ 6:05 PM                           Permalink
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Good afternoon all,  Having hired twice now on the Northern Broads and been the benificiary of a lot of extremely helpful advice, I am once again dipping my toe in the water to  ask for advice and suggestion.

I have hired Fair Emperor from the 1st of April for a week and wish to also see some of the Southern Broads this time. Having not been through Yarmouth before and a little hesitant, I've consulted the tide tables and if I've read them properly, it would suggest the most appropriate travelling times are :

2 April : 09:34
3 April : 10:25
4 April : 11:28
5 April : 12:48
6 April : 14:09

My first query and I apologise if is a silly one, is where do I have to be at these times ? Is it the main bridge in Yarmouth or the approach from North or South. Secondly, if there are only these certain times for crossing, is there normally quite a build up of boat traffic trying to access at the same time and is the river wide enough at all points to allow two boats to comfortably pass each other.

Thirdly and a more general one, Could the more experienced suggest some Southern Broad Highlights ? Either to see/visit/cruise by in the daytime and favoured moorings for overnight. More than happy to try a wild mooring.

I appreciate this may be a repeated request for Yarmouth and South Broads but I have always found that despite as much research you can do beforehand, there is nothing like a personal recommendation and guidance.



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Nov-29-2016 @ 7:08 PM                           Permalink
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Hi, the times you have posted are the slack water times and these are the ideal, but not the only times to pass through Gt Yarmouth. The science is not that exact, but more approximate. You would want to be passing any where from the yacht station to the yellow marker post at your chosen time. It can be a bit busier at slack water, but nothing to worry about.

As for where to go, personally I like Beccles, Oulton Broad and Norwich, but so many places to choose from.

Good luck

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Nov-29-2016 @ 8:17 PM                           Permalink
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Hi

The bits of the south that I like best are a cruise along the Chet with overnight mooring at Lodden riverbank  which are free public moorings just befor the basin ( which can get crowded and is also right next to a car park ).  I would also recommend the breakfasts in Sarah lees cafe which is just over the road from the basin .

My other favourite is surlingham sometimes called Bathgate broad near brundall. I think it is the prettiest spot to be in , very secluded and probably the smallest navigable broad on the broads

Have fun

Graham

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Nov-29-2016 @ 9:19 PM                           Permalink
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For "Sarah lees cafe" read "Rosy Lee's Tea Room". I was there on Saturday and the cakes were delicious, as usual. Its only a small place (although there is also a tea garden during the warmer months). The proprieter is a lovely lady called Caroline.
Enjoy

Andy

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Nov-29-2016 @ 9:26 PM                           Permalink
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Thank you so much for your responses. It really is invaluable for visitors to the broads and "newer" captains to be able to tap into the experiences of others who can suggest/guide/inform others. I've used the forum for the last few years and it illustrates to me how friendly the forum users are and show a "ask away, we've all been there !" Mentality,  so no one is belittled at what might seem the most basic of questions.

So thank you again, and more suggestions welcome.

Ian.

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Nov-29-2016 @ 9:55 PM                           Permalink
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Woops sorry. At least I didn't call it Mr Kiplings

Graham

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Nov-30-2016 @ 12:27 PM                           Permalink
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Just choose any slack water time, read your manual that you will get with the boat as all the information you need is there.

When passing through GY do not under any circumstances turn around opposite the moorings otherwise you will be in deep do do and the boat will be carried broadside down the river and may damage other craft.

If you want to moor and you have a following current go out in the wide bit of water down below the mouth of the Bure, turn there and come into the mooring against the current.

Have fun.

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Nov-30-2016 @ 1:17 PM                           Permalink
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Wouldn't argue with Potter, except to say that if you follow the timings suggested you won't encounter  a fast current in either direction.....that's the whole point of going through at slack water.

Don't fret too much about the tide - the whole point is that the tides themselves are somewhat variable, and provided you follow the guidance in the tables, half an hour or so either way won't be a problem.

While sensible awareness is to be encouraged, there is far too much scaremongering, and PROVIDED you've done your homework you'll be fine    Smile

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Nov-30-2016 @ 5:44 PM                           Permalink
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Dont forget too that you have to get to Yarmouth, unless you are actually moored there and the nearest safe mooring going south is Stracey Arms, some 2hrs away or 1 1/2 hours at the very best. So leave yourself that time before the slack water but to be honest, it does not matter so much going south.

Although you say its neaps, it is not neaps until the end of the week, so at the beginning of the week you are actually nearer to Springs than neaps! Also watch the daylight hours - you should be ok but you have probably already spotted by then that it will be BST by then and that sun rise and sun set on the tables is GMT

Coming back you do not want to be at the mouth of the Bure until slack water at the earliest as water runs out of the Bure often for a longer period. However by then it will be neaps and you will easily push what is left of the ebb coming down. Also the jumpinging off spots are nearer with both Berney Arms and Burgh Castle only about an hour away. To be honest if on the Yare I love the Cantley moorings - the current is less up there but it is still only about 2 1/2 hours to Yarmouth - leave Reedham alone and enjoy Cantley and the pub!!

Oulton Dyke and the Broad are nice and so is Somerleyton - Oulton probably 3hrs and a bit and the latter 2 1/2 hours. As I say have a leisurely late breakfast and aim to be at Yarmouth at the back end of slack - don't worry about the tide having turned on Breydon and coming in a bit it won't be much, but the key is not to be too early. Fair Emperor has a pretty high airdraft so you will need to be somewhere near the low tide time to get under safely.

Above all remember it is not an exact science especially as tides do not read the printed tables!!   Smile

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Nov-30-2016 @ 7:29 PM                           Permalink
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What " leave reedham alone " I'm sure the village's publican's and shop owners will be delighted with that mashman , reedham would be manned on those dates where as burgh castle and the berney  arms are not manned and the tide flows just as fast there as reedham , at least u can do some provisions buying at reedham if req , also there is a lay by pontoon between Yarmouth and the Stacy arms these days for emergency mooring only but t running out of daylight hrs and not having nav lights is in a hire craft pretty much that sort of situation .
Other than that I agree .

Richard

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