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Oct-28-2017 @ 11:30 AM                           Permalink
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Hi If you insist on a foam jacket the yard will supply a good as it gets one plus as it will have been worn before its likely to be a little more supple therefore more comfortable and not as stiff as a new one plus you can try on for fit. if bought on ebay you wont be able to try the fit first.get the yard to email you a picture of the one they will be supplying when you have decided on what yard/boat you will be hiring if suitable you will have a choice of fit when you pick the boat up.John

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If you do buy your own buoyancy aids get the crutch straps to go with them ,these stop the aid from rising up to the head and neck.

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Oct-29-2017 @ 2:54 AM                           Permalink
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Thanks again for all the welcomes and extra advice – we’re really grateful for the help and tolerating our beginner status!

Thanks for explaining about the harnesses; we understand much more now and are starting to think again about the idea.  That they’re clear of the boat should they go overboard makes a lot of sense and we understand now that some boats might not have anchoring points and that they’d likely be the only ones wearing harnesses.  The reason we got them was so they could sit on the front or the back deck when we’re underway and be safely clipped on with short enough safety lines to keep them away from the sides of the boat so there is no chance they could go overboard.  We understand that might seem a bit restrictive for them, but we actually decided it would be the opposite and be better because they could enjoy sitting on the front deck or back deck completely safely without needing to wear a lifejacket. We certainly won’t be letting them sit very near or on the sides with their legs over the edge under any circumstances, so we thought if they have the harnesses on it would be much more comfortable for them than a lifejacket when sitting on the deck (or laying down frontwards and reading as they love to do).  Also, if the weather is nice (fingers crossed!), then their harnesses would not make them overly warm or uncomfortable like a lifejacket might do.  We also figured that if they want to move around to take photos or videos my wife or I would hold their safety lines and they could move a bit easier than if they had lifejackets on.

We asked about lifejackets because when it’s colder, getting darker in the evening, and definitely always at boarding/mooring we’d have them come inside the boat and put them on beforehand.  We’d also figured that they’d keep them on when having fun and/or walking along the water’s edge if the path or grass is muddy or slippery.

Thanks for the recommendation about the buoyancy aids but we looked up the difference and while we really appreciate the idea, I we’d feel much better with proper lifejackets.  The girls are not strong swimmers and if the worst were to happen and either hit their head and fell in unconscious having the collar (and as was noted the crutch straps as well) would provide better protection for them.  Also, part of the reason we’re looking at the Crewsaver ones was that they have built-in harnesses and an attachment point for a safety line at the back so we could still use the safety lines with them just like we thought about with the harnesses.  Thanks for the idea – and we absolutely get what you’re saying, but being first-timers and unfamiliar with docking, mooring, etc., we’d much rather have the extra protection of a proper lifejacket.  And now we understand that with lifejackets the buoyancy is at the front, then that might be a reason to keep the harnesses for when we’re underway – but as we said we’re now rethinking the harness idea.  We hope we love the Broads as much as everyone here on the forum does and if we come back we’ll maybe go with buoyancy aids then as we’ll have more experience.

Also, thanks for the tips about Breydon water – we looked up more about it and we’ll definitely all be inside if and when we cross it.  We’ll also contact each company and ask them to send photos of the lifejackets they can provide.  Thanks so much again for tips and advice – we really appreciate the help.  Given what everyone has said, we are rethinking the harness idea, but still aren’t sure if we’re comfortable with them just in lifejackets and we do want them to be able to have fun on the front and back deck and enjoy themselves as much as they can.

Sorry to add another long message when everyone has been so helpful.  We don’t mean to sound like we’re rejecting tips and advice – quite the opposite – we are very grateful!  We just wanted to explain our thinking more fully so we can do the best and safest thing.

We really appreciate any input and thanks again for putting up with our novice status!

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Oct-29-2017 @ 11:10 AM                           Permalink
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Thank you for taking the time to explain your thinking, there are so many differing views on the subject of life jackets etc. Have you actually booked your boat yet? If not, do you have any idea of what boat you fancy? There are many boat reviews which you might find helpful and, of course, there will undoubtedly be a member who has actually hired the boats that you take a liking to and could answer any questions you may have. If you are reasonably close to the the Broads, you could always visit a couple of the boatyards and look at the various types. You might then get a better idea of what would suit you and be safe for the girls. Do make arrangements with the boatyard though, that will ensure the boat/s are available.
You did mention the girls sitting on the back deck whilst harnessed. Whilst not wishing to go over the subject of harnesses again, I would just point out that the greatest danger at the stern is the propeller. Although they may not actually go totally overboard, there is a danger of legs dangling and the body being held in one place by the harness.
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hi tonkatravels
even if you do buy the slimmer style life jackets the boatyard might not approve them and insist you take theirs anyway. i bought my 2 boys the slim type jackets to save storage space on board but the ones i bought didnt have any saftey markings on them, it was on the packaging which id left at home. therefore had to have 2 bulky bright orange life jackets on board filling up valuable storage......the boys never did wear either!!! they are older than your 2 at 13 and 14. mind you they spent most of the time in their cabin on their tablets, though still say they had a great 2 weeks
we had the boat in my pic, broadland orion

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We are hiring a boat next year for two weeks and have just purchased our own life jackets, reason is a simple one,we know what the lifejacket has been through etc.
We chose Crewsaver,they come with the crotch strap,automatic and will self right.
Very comfortable and lightweight.

http://www.lifejackets.co.uk/mobile/products/787/crewsaver-crewfit-165n-sport-automatic-lifejacket-navy-blue-save-10

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dont worry as long as ythey have boyancy aidS ( life jacketds as they were told and you a nd trherm are sensible here sre a few simple rules my frikends children always follow
keep off the deacks when boagt is moving
use one hand too hold on to rail when moveing arround the boat
if your boat HAS A WELL STAY IN THERE WHILE BOAT MOVVING your kids will lovewthe bfroads i allways did and srill do

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In my opinion the safest option for inland waters has to be a buoyancy aid.  It's OK saying 'we've bought our own automatic life jackets', but you can't be 100% sure that they will function properly until they're utilised, whereas you can be sure that a buoyancy aid will keep you afloat.  In the case of an adult it is a matter of personal choice, but where a child is concerned I know where my preference would lie.

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Hi there. What a great thread you have opened up Tonka...
We were on nbd fair sovereign this summer with 4 and 6 yr olds. Our rule was life jackets on when outside cabin but never tied on for reasons explained in the great responses above. Self inflating jackets supplied by nbd were moaned at by the kids for half a day but the deal was wear it or stay inside!
Other point is we booked a boat with a good top deck to keep the kids safeish while under way. At 11-13yrs old they could be fine climbing all over the boat.
Enjoy! We loved it so are back again at Easter

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