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MikeParky
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You really do have some daft thoughts. I have already explained that my own,two day boats(at speed) and two other boats with families on.That makes at least five boats on the river in a confined area and you expect me to drop all control and round up into wind?
Ever thought about tidal drift or the effect of wind on a boat. It heads to wind with control of the mainsheet. Drop all control  and one corner of the stern faces wind as the big sides of the bow then become the biggest surface with effect.
I bet they love you on here seen as how your never wrong. I am quite tolerant to others opinions but if you expect anyone to drop all control on a busy river on A Saturday morning!
I hope I never get to go sailing under your command. This is my last post on this subject as I'm sure you'll come back with another post.I have better things to do with my life.

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Mike don't worry, you are right. Plan A on the Broads, when it comes to a sailing boat is to keep the boat moving.  While she might round up, she won't stop, or she will stop but won't stay there. Of course the classic way to do this is to heave too. That is go about and leave the jib so that it is backed and keep the helm up. Works a treat on Barton or Hickling, totally useless on a river. No, your best option is to keep that old boat moving forward.


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”Ever thought about tidal drift or the effect of wind on a boat. It heads to wind with control of the mainsheet. Drop all control  and one corner of the stern faces wind as the big sides of the bow then become the biggest surface with effect.”

Don’t take my word for it. Next time you’re afloat, go to a broad (Black Horse would be suitable and near you) on a day with a brisk breeze, sail nice and close to the wind, so you get up a good speed, then you and your crew release the sheets. I think you’ll be surprised just how quickly the boat will stop.

"..for the avoidance of any doubt, the broads are not legally a national park and do not come under the national park legislation, and nor will they."
Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for DEFRA (Hansard 2015)

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Mike, PM sent.

kindest regards

Kevin Cook

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Not a strategy that I would suggest Paladine. Not on the river at least. Too many variables. What you suggest is more or less correct and fine if clear of other craft on open water but not ideal for the river. Even in light winds.
I have been teaching sailing for years and always tell the students to keep control of the craft at all times. Maybe I am over cautious but I would have done the same on the river.
However I would not have mentioned the incident on here either. Seen it all before, tedious idiots trying to be clever. Too unimpressive to even bother with.
But that is just me perhaps.

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Harlequin, if you re-read my posts, I didn't actually suggest it as a strategy, I was pointing out a very considerable difference between flying a plane and sailing a boat on the Broads. Let go of the controls of a plane, and it will crash. Let go of the controls of a sailing boat and it will just drift on the water.

"..for the avoidance of any doubt, the broads are not legally a national park and do not come under the national park legislation, and nor will they."
Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for DEFRA (Hansard 2015)

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Fair point.

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