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A comment on Angling Policy in a report to the Navigation Committee in 2010 reads:

"1.4 Angling Policy. Angling restrictions were introduced at identified problem
sites at Beccles, Bramerton, Postwick Wharf and Worlingham where angling
is banned from 16 June until 30 September each year. Initial reaction to the
ban was hostile but toward the latter half of the 2009 period the situation had
calmed significantly. Nine incidents were recorded in all but only one out of
the three latter incidents was reported as hostile."


What powers does the Broads Authority have to enforce such a ban?

"..for the avoidance of any doubt, the broads are not legally a national park and do not come under the national park legislation, and nor will they."
Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for DEFRA (Hansard 2015)


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Removed as I didn't realise this was an ask JP thread, sorry
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As the leaseholder of mooring sites, or in the case of Postwick and Worlingham, the landowner, the Authority has the ability to manage what activity takes place on land under its control.

Where we have restricted angling access we have tried to make alternative provision for anglers.  At Worlingham we have installed 10 angling platforms adjacent to the mooring in partnership with the Environment Agency and at Postwick the Environment Agency has provided 23 angling pads upstream of the mooring.

Of the 66 24-hour moorings under the Authority’s control only at four is fishing not permitted. The majority of our moorings continue to be managed on the basis that anglers are welcome but must make way for boats wishing to moor.

In general we have few problems because many private boat owners either also enjoy angling or appreciate its importance in the Broads.


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That doesn't really answer my question, though. What actual power can the BA invoke? The bye laws don't contain any relevant power.

Scenario - angler is disobeying a 'No Fishing' sign at a BA mooring. No obstruction of vessels wishing to moor. What can a ranger actually do to enforce the policy?

"..for the avoidance of any doubt, the broads are not legally a national park and do not come under the national park legislation, and nor will they."
Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for DEFRA (Hansard 2015)

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While there might not be police or byelaw powers, the rangers have powers by virtue of the Broads Authority's land ownership or lease rights. We also have a good relationship with Broads Beat who can help with any issues.

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You mean the laws of trespass. Am I right in thinking that the rangers would only be able to request that the angler desists and would be powerless if the request was ignored. The Police can only become involved if there is a criminal offence being committed or about to be committed. Trespass is a civil offence.

"..for the avoidance of any doubt, the broads are not legally a national park and do not come under the national park legislation, and nor will they."
Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for DEFRA (Hansard 2015)

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Again no response to a factual based response to a heavily spun answer


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But surely if a land / leaseholder makes it clear that they do not allow a particular activity only an arrogant idiot would disobey it. Or even if they did would desist on request.
Just a matter of common good manners surely.
Surely some questions are so obvious that they do not need answers.

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Not really Exy, putting signs up could inflame the matter, Boaters may think that the signs actually mean that Anglers can't fish there at the times specified when in actual fact the B.A. Have no way to enforce the ban other than using the trespass laws. If that is the case (and I'm pretty sure Pally knows what he's talking about), why are the B.A. Wasting money putting up signs that they can't enforce?

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Rubbish, the land owner should be allowed to dictate what is allowed. It would be interesting to compare someone entering my land and shooting or trapping my game with fishing on the Broads. Perhaps Paladine could explain where poaching and trespass start and finish because I also have an interest in a stretch of the Tweed and when two gentlemen were found having taken a Sea Trout from my land I can assure you the punishment was a lot more than simple trespass.

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