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steve
Oct-17-2016 @ 8:20 PM                           Permalink
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Hi ,
My question is what is the BA  stance on hireboats cruising late in the evening / just got dark ?  Reason for the question is there has been a rise in hire boats leaving it very late to get moorings  or still about cruising , evening coming out the hireboat yards late.

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Oct-18-2016 @ 4:09 PM                           Permalink
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Copied from ncsl , and at his request , he's question
What are the BA proposing to do - if any thing - regarding hire craft that are cruising after sun set?

The amount of hire craft that are not only cruising after sun set but as soon as it start to gets dusk and they can not find a mooring I have found that a larger number of hire boats are going at very hi speeds looking for moorings.
I was at cockshoot and at least 6-7 hire craft came past there after sunset doing well over the speed limit.

It is getting worse !
EDIT - I see a similar question has been asked so maybe move this to Steves thread?

steve and vicky

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Only vessels displaying the correct lights are permitted to navigate after sunset or before sunrise as set out in the Navigation Byelaws 1995. Sunset and sunrise times are set out in the tide table books. Most hire boats are not fitted with lights and should therefore not be navigating at night. Hirers should be advised of this by the yards as part of their handover. We know hire yards also stop later arrivals leaving the yards until the morning if sunset is approaching.

Rangers undertake at least one later patrol per fortnight and will give advice to any boaters still out on the rivers around this time. Those boaters found to be navigating beyond this time may also be given a written warning with the possibility on prosecution depending on the circumstances.

If hire boats are seen navigating after dark or speeding, please report the details to Broads Control (Tel: 01603 756056) to include name and number of the boat, and Rangers can follow up/ investigate as appropriate as well as raising the issue with the relevant hire yard.


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Oct-20-2016 @ 6:45 PM                           Permalink
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quote:"......
Rangers undertake at least one later patrol per fortnight
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During the summer I believe the rangers on the Waveney have to do this shift to assist with the powerboat racing. The regular mobo racers know that, they can then get away with anything they want in the evening without risk of getting caught.

Had the funding been available maybe a drunk idiot on Oulton Broad might not have ruined a number of lives this August bank holiday.

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Oct-20-2016 @ 6:48 PM                           Permalink
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Were the Hire industry to pay it's fair share of the Tolls burden the B.A. May have funding available to Police this mainly Hire related problem .

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Oct-20-2016 @ 6:53 PM                           Permalink
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I have personally witnessed Herbert Woods doing handovers at 19.20hrs when dusk is only 45 mins away I am sure the same can be said for other yards, I have spoken to Richardsons clients who have been told not to worry there are plenty of moorings just go.

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I appreciate that public cooperation and reporting of incidents is vital, to aid the enforcement of laws countrywide. However, we have seen so many late night hire boats this year,  I would be spending more of my free time taking details and trying to phone  them through , than I want to!  Public assistance should be just that,  not a replacement for adequate formal cover. I imagine many boaters are happy to support the BA in policing the rivers, but could be alienated if they feel the burden is upon them.  Some increased presence could go a long way so this must warrant consideration.  Would the use of volunteer Rangers be possible/ helpful ?  

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Again like Brian , we too have witnessed this summer when moored at potter heigham opposite Herbert woods ,very late hand over trials and even after the handover , the hirers coming out late  , even the same when moored at Sutton stathie , hirers coming out late in the dark from Richardsons , only to find the moorings full and asking other moored up boaters where can we moor , it's dark ???? Only to be told to go back to there boatyard , think more needs to be done with the hireboat yards when handing over ,
Also agree with Karen's points

steve and vicky


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