The Norfolk BroadsThe Norfolk Broads
Username Password
Norfolk Broads Weather

Mon, 11 Apr 2016 7:20 am BST- Light Rain
5 Day Forecast

Wind 2.0 mph @ 40°
48.0°F/8.89°C Humidity 93% Pressure 29.65 (S)

Welcome to The Norfolk Broads Forum
This is THE Worlds Largest Forum devoted to the Norfolk Broads, here you can discuss issues about the Norfolk Broads. Or just somewhere to chat with others interested in the Norfolk Broads area. In 2015 forum members spent 2,048 days afloat on the Broads

Please Help Support The Norfolk Broads Forum
OR

The Norfolk Broads Forum / ASK JP #3 / Trust and Respect
login
join
Graphics Off
Search
Forum Members - Book your Hoseasons holiday today, Just call 0345 498 6296

This is a moderated forum Reply to this DiscussionReply to Discussion | Start new discussionNew Discussion << previous || next >> 
Posted By Discussion Topic: Trust and Respect

Similar Threads That Might Help :
Show Some Respect!!!| Nancy Blacket trust| The Wavy Anchor Trust??| New and a request from How Hill Trust| Trust needs £100,000 to keep wherry afloat!!!| North Walsham and Dilham Canal Trust|

-- Page: 1 2 3

book mark this topic Printer-friendly Version  send this discussion to a friend  new posts last

Richard
Apr-26-2017 @ 8:12 PM                           Permalink
reply
edit
profile
send p.m.
Administrator
Founding Member
Posts: 8859
Joined: Aug 2004
Richard
          

Harlequin, I'm not suggesting in any way that this was a cash grab. The BA need the money, and probably a lot more post Brexit. I just want it to be done and seen to be done in an equitable and fair manor.

John, I totally agree with you that we need the HBO's and business owners to be part of the debate. That's not the issue.

Voting when there is a financial gain IS.

Debate and decision making two totally different things, or do you not agree?

rickh
Apr-26-2017 @ 8:15 PM                           Permalink
reply
edit
profile
send p.m.
Lives to Post
Posts: 1310
Joined: Dec 2011
rickh
          

Add To Ignore List
Without any knowledge whatsoever I'm guessing harlequin your tolls have come down hence your remarks had they gone up as significantly as some have I doubt you would be of the same opinion .

Richard

JP
Apr-26-2017 @ 8:19 PM                           Permalink
reply
edit
profile
send p.m.
Forum Regular
Posts: 159
Joined: Dec 2005
JP
          

Add To Ignore List
Dear Brian,

The most reliable poll of private boat owners is the survey by Insight Track in November 2014.

This statistically significant response showed that only 16% of private boat owners were dissatisfied with the performance of the Broads Authority.

John


kfurbank
Apr-26-2017 @ 8:22 PM                           Permalink
reply
edit
profile
send p.m.
Mardles sometimes
Posts: 3989
Joined: Nov 2004
kfurbank
          

Add To Ignore List
John,

I'm not a gambling man, but I bet it you rerun that same survey it would be a significantly higher figure now!!!!

Just because The BA make a request, don't automatically assume they have the powers to make such requests!! Keeping a careful eye on an Authority which is making it's own rules.

rickh
Apr-26-2017 @ 8:25 PM                           Permalink
reply
edit
profile
send p.m.
Lives to Post
Posts: 1310
Joined: Dec 2011
rickh
          

Add To Ignore List
Is it just me our did others see the way a certain Richardson's rep and nav committee member steered the discussions especially regarding hire boats and had the nerve to suggest that BA at toll payers expense extended the amount of electric posts to accommodate the hire fleet's .

Richard

tonybwb
Apr-26-2017 @ 8:57 PM                           Permalink
reply
edit
profile
send p.m.
Forum Regular
Posts: 505
Joined: Oct 2010
          

Add To Ignore List
I do not think 16 per cent of private boat owners not being satisfied with BA's performance should be a cause of satisfaction especially at a time when there were fewer or no exceptional decisions being made.

tony b

Jean&Brian
Apr-26-2017 @ 9:04 PM                           Permalink
reply
edit
profile
send p.m.
Moderator
Posts: 2002
Joined: Nov 2008
Jean&Brian
          

John

Given that survey was only representative of a small number of toll payers, the breakdown of the various sectors of toll payer and the loaded questions I don't place any credence on the results at all.

             Brian

Member Victor Meldrew Appreciation Society

Harlequin
Apr-26-2017 @ 11:28 PM                           Permalink
reply
edit
profile
send p.m.
Forum Regular
Posts: 301
Joined: Apr 2017
          

Add To Ignore List
Rickh
My opinions on the toll changes have nothing whatsoever about my personal circumstances. As yet I have neither used or tolled my boats on the broads this year. I will shortly do so and depending on which boat / boats I put on the water this will either be an increase or decrease. At best by only putting my smallest boat on the water I will gain about a fiver. So nothing in it for me personally.
What this forum often fails to grasp is that MOST people who post here have motor boats that tend to be larger so generally they have seen increases. However huge numbers of people on the Broads have small boats and have felt proportionally overcharged for years. They see the changes as a case of "about time too".
In their eyes the "equitable and fair manner" of pricing tolls that Richard mentioned has now been addressed.
Also given that larger boats by their very nature give the opportunity to spend considerable time aboard compared to small boats (some people even living aboard full time) the value of their tolls is hugely increased. Maybe the BA should base their tolls on an hourly rate to reflect that usage of infrastructure Smile .

rickh
Apr-26-2017 @ 12:20 AM                           Permalink
reply
edit
profile
send p.m.
Lives to Post
Posts: 1310
Joined: Dec 2011
rickh
          

Add To Ignore List
Harlequin it was the way your post was worded that due my attention it seam as if it was a case of I'm all right jack that's all , naturally there are winners and losers I did both over 2 boats, yes plenty have complained over the yrs but mostly for tenders , as for usage big boats can't use the whole system smaller ones can so its swing's and roundabouts there too , as for an hourly rate that's never going to happen and besides for the amount of help I and others  give BA in reports etc then I just can't see it , I'm beginning to think that with some the fact that others have the opportunity to spend lots of time on the rivers is something they don't like because they aren't in the same position , of they were then maybe they would see there tolls as better value , I'm sure most will have a diesel bill of 1/7 of mine + parts and servicing etc all of which comes from local yards and supplier's .
I'll readily agree some take the Mick in the way they behave but I prefer my own company and keep away hence of anyone needs a part for a breakdown repair or a tool to do what ever and iv got it then its sorted simple as that , not all that live afloat are the enemy some are exactly the opposite .

Richard

Harlequin
Apr-27-2017 @ 1:40 AM                           Permalink
reply
edit
profile
send p.m.
Forum Regular
Posts: 301
Joined: Apr 2017
          

Add To Ignore List
I was not suggesting that liveaboards or people that daily or weekly use the broads are some kind of enemy. Rather I was stating that they get extremely good value for money tolls wise.
Living on the water obviously incurs larger other costs like diesel etc but compared to mortgages or rent and general land based expenses it is a snip.


PAGE: 1 2 3

Home Photo Gallery Days Afloat Contact Us
Chat Room Downloads Norfolk Broads @ Amazon Make My Logo
Shops & Businesses Members Gear Norfolk Broads @ EBay Holiday Calendar
Pub Guide Tide Tables SOS List Popular Threads
2017 Calendar Contest Make A Donation Links Hireboat Info
Norfolk Broads @ CafePress FAQ Broads Quiz Forum Events
Advertise With Us Forum Shop Boating Bits Stickys and FAQs Boating Bits Hirecraft List

 

 

 



Copyright © 2005 Y2KInternet, All Rights Reserved.